Did I hear you say that this is victory?
из переписки на больную голову
а какая у тебя была мечта?
все менялось. но когда детство переросло в отрочество, а отрочество приблизилось к юности, все стало мельчать и становиться более приземленным
в тогда хотелось чего-то невероятного. чего-то немыслимого. менять своей волей мир вокруг себя
а потом я научился видеть чудеса и волшебство в обыденных ситуациях
ну как именно?
магия, чудеса и волшебство )
оказалось, проще изменить мир внутри себя и найти чудеса и волшебство там ) и с этим знанием смотреть на мир снаружи уже иначе, и видеть эту магию в людях вокруг, в местах и ситуациях
ценить момент, что краше любой картины
влияние наше на мир просто не всегда прямое и буквальное. помоги плачущей девушке добрым словом поддержки - и мир из ее глаз уже не такой серый и тусклый, пусть даже не надолго, правда?
люди касаются моей жизни, и некоторые из них запускают волны, которые проносятся через мой мир так, что приводят в действие какие-то чувства, которые могут вылиться во что-то совершенно новое - например, музыку
я слушаю эту музыку, и я чувствую тот комплексный образ того человека в тот момент, со временем он обрастает новыми ассоциациями и деталями
и каждый раз, когда я соприкасаюсь с этой музыкой и снова чувствую эхо того момента, того образа - это тоже меняет мой мир
возможно, другие люди получают другие образы от этой музыки - тогда, опосредованно, тот самый человек меняет и их мир, даже если они его никогда не знали
чудеса?
вот из таких ярких, позитивных моментов и складывается счастье. вот именно ради них и стоит жить
тебя как-то правда штырит
при всей моей любви к логическому мышлению, мыслю я все же образами )
and some more discussions about magicTomato: what is magic to you, Isabelle?
Isa: Northen lights.
Isa: Well it's not magic but sure feels like it.
Tomato: aren't they grand?
Isa: Also like looking at the stars.
Isa: fuck yeah
Isa: Or like being approached by wildlife.
Ovanos: magic? hmmm idk actually, never thought about it
Isa: Hearing that one fucking great song
Isa: Connecting with a person and talk until you fall asleep/leave.
Tomato: so exciting sights and happenings of nature, society and life in general, that bring up those magnificent feelings of awe... it does feel like magic, doesn't it?
Isa: Seeing the sun rise?
Isa: IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN
Isa: YE
Neütral Fäce: To me, magic is ineffable.
Tomato: I like your image, Isa
Tomato: so it is something, that you can only feel, but lack words to express and/or undrestand, Face?
Isa: It's not actual magic but sure can feel like it.
PunasaurusRex left chat.
Neütral Fäce: Yes I think that's about what I'm saying, Tomato.
Isa: Or when you are lying in bed and the cat comes to you and just lies down in your arms.
Ovanos: like the iPhone, so magical
Tomato: I just wanted to clarify that I understood that, thank you, Face
Mari: 18:10 - Isa: Or when you are lying in bed and the cat comes to you and just lies down in your arms.
^
Neütral Fäce: Yes, exactly!
musical: or starts padding your chest
Neütral Fäce: Or when a rabbit dances.
Tomato: I love you so much, guys. this makes me smile
Neütral Fäce: Or the sun peeking through the trees.
Neütral Fäce: What is magic to you, Tomato?
Isa: Seeing a frog jump in the grass.
Tomato: you are all talking about those special moments, that make you feel a witness or a part of something very special and of great immediate importance
Tomato: I know exactly that kind of moments, those are the moments to live for
Ovanos: so basically life and living things and their interactions is magic?
Neütral Fäce: I think so, yes.
Isa: I remember being in my friends summer house. We are walking in the fields near it just exploring. We were like what, 10, 12? I turn around and see a small deer approach us.
Tomato: I was thinking on that matter earlier today, and that is what I've come to
Neütral Fäce:
Neütral Fäce: What happened with the deer, Isa?
Isa: What do you call a baby deer?
Neütral Fäce: A fawn.
Isa: Ah yes
Isa: Well the fawn tried to smell us for like 2 minutes and decided it had enough and walked away into the woods.
Isa: We just stood there.
Ovanos: hehehehe
Neütral Fäce: Magic.
Ovanos: that's a nice memory
Isa: Yeah that felt like magic.
Ovanos: for me, magic isnt appropriate for describing such things. idk, words like beautiful, mesmerizing, astonishing, soothing
C.: I don't know what magic is.
Tomato: when I was a kid, I dreamt of being a magician, of shaping the world around me to the power of my will. when I got older, I realized, that I do shape the world, the one inside me and the one outside. when someone touches my life with granting those moments we were talking about, they make an impact, that ripples trough my inner world, rising up the images, thoughts and feelings that might have never been unearhed. that makes me to express that image through the means I am able to - like, for example, writing music.
C.: I'm not happy with the explanation I was going to give.
C.: That's so gloriously wonderful Tommy.
Ovanos: ^
Ovanos: superbly beautiful
C.: I could punch you right now.
Ovanos: me?
Tomato: when I listen to it - it brings back those moments of joy and awe, and while the image may be changing through time, the feelings still remain
quite possibly, when the other people listen to it, they get their own image
Neütral Fäce: Tomato! steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/emoticon/... Well said.
Tomato: and, if you think about it, it might shape their inner worlds as well
C.: No, Tommy.,
Ovanos: why? cuz he put it so eloquently?
Neütral Fäce: Because C. hates magic.
C.: He probably knows it's a compliment.
Neütral Fäce: steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/emoticon/...
Tomato: but - if not for the person, that rippled my world, they would not have that experience. so that person, through me, makes this effect and changes the outside world
Neütral Fäce: A few weeks ago I was having a bad day, and then a spider came running out from under a door. And I was startled, so I thought for a second that I'd step on it. But the spider stopped. And I stopped. And I went and got a glass and some paper, and when I came back the spider was still there. He hadn't moved. So I put the paper down, and I went to put the glass over the spider, but he crawled onto the paper, and then into the glass. He he chilled out until I brought him outside. And then he crawled out of the glass and turned around for a second and then left.
Tomato: I love it, NF
Neütral Fäce: One of the biggest magics I've had in the last few years was with a rabbit though.
Tomato: so, to finish my thought... I think, magic is this - changing your inner and outer world through those ineffable moments that we create or witness
Neütral Fäce: I agree, Tomato.
Neütral Fäce: That and when the guy finds my card in my own pocket.
Tomato: haha
Neütral Fäce: How did it even get there!?
Tomato: such a lovely ending to that discussion which I am totally saving
Neütral Fäce: I can tell the rabbit story if you'd like, bring it back around.
Tomato: thank you for this
Neütral Fäce:
Tomato: I would like to hear that, yes!
Neütral Fäce: Oh, ok.
Isa: Lying in a rowing boat and listening to the waves is pretty damn great.
Neütral Fäce: Rabbits are very shy, and they won't tolerate someone touching them if they don't like it. They're slow to trust. They are tiny animals of prey, afterall. A few years ago I was asked to look after someone's new rabbit. It was only a baby, very tiny. Well I didn't really want a rabbit but I also didn't want it to end up in a less-than-desirable place, so I said yes. And this tiny rabbit came to live here. It was afraid, and kept trying to escape, but I put a towel and a cardboard box on the floor with some food and stuff and then left it alone. I was still in the room at all times, but I didn't approach. I'm here alone most of the time so I talked to the rabbit all day. Asked her what she was up to and told her what I was doing. But she was still afraid. And she still tried to escape. One time she even got stuck on the bars of gate. lol. I had to pry her off and gently put her back on the floor.
Andre: tl;dr this chat
Neütral Fäce: One day she came to me and tugged my pants and gave them a lick, then took off. Haha. But the day after, she followed me to the other room. And the day after she came and lay down next to me.
Neütral Fäce: And then she sat on my lap.
C.: That's so neat.
Tomato: amazing!
Neütral Fäce: And five years later that rabbit with no home still won't leave me alone.
Tomato: ain't it grand
Neütral Fäce: Yep.
Tomato: I won't believe that you were unchanged by that experience
Tomato: and you've definitely changed that little rabbit's world
Tomato: that, my friend, is magic
Neütral Fäce: Well sometimes you get what you need rather than what you think you wanted.
а какая у тебя была мечта?
все менялось. но когда детство переросло в отрочество, а отрочество приблизилось к юности, все стало мельчать и становиться более приземленным
в тогда хотелось чего-то невероятного. чего-то немыслимого. менять своей волей мир вокруг себя
а потом я научился видеть чудеса и волшебство в обыденных ситуациях
ну как именно?
магия, чудеса и волшебство )
оказалось, проще изменить мир внутри себя и найти чудеса и волшебство там ) и с этим знанием смотреть на мир снаружи уже иначе, и видеть эту магию в людях вокруг, в местах и ситуациях
ценить момент, что краше любой картины
влияние наше на мир просто не всегда прямое и буквальное. помоги плачущей девушке добрым словом поддержки - и мир из ее глаз уже не такой серый и тусклый, пусть даже не надолго, правда?
люди касаются моей жизни, и некоторые из них запускают волны, которые проносятся через мой мир так, что приводят в действие какие-то чувства, которые могут вылиться во что-то совершенно новое - например, музыку
я слушаю эту музыку, и я чувствую тот комплексный образ того человека в тот момент, со временем он обрастает новыми ассоциациями и деталями
и каждый раз, когда я соприкасаюсь с этой музыкой и снова чувствую эхо того момента, того образа - это тоже меняет мой мир
возможно, другие люди получают другие образы от этой музыки - тогда, опосредованно, тот самый человек меняет и их мир, даже если они его никогда не знали
чудеса?
вот из таких ярких, позитивных моментов и складывается счастье. вот именно ради них и стоит жить
тебя как-то правда штырит
при всей моей любви к логическому мышлению, мыслю я все же образами )
and some more discussions about magicTomato: what is magic to you, Isabelle?
Isa: Northen lights.
Isa: Well it's not magic but sure feels like it.
Tomato: aren't they grand?
Isa: Also like looking at the stars.
Isa: fuck yeah
Isa: Or like being approached by wildlife.
Ovanos: magic? hmmm idk actually, never thought about it
Isa: Hearing that one fucking great song
Isa: Connecting with a person and talk until you fall asleep/leave.
Tomato: so exciting sights and happenings of nature, society and life in general, that bring up those magnificent feelings of awe... it does feel like magic, doesn't it?
Isa: Seeing the sun rise?
Isa: IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN
Isa: YE
Neütral Fäce: To me, magic is ineffable.
Tomato: I like your image, Isa
Tomato: so it is something, that you can only feel, but lack words to express and/or undrestand, Face?
Isa: It's not actual magic but sure can feel like it.
PunasaurusRex left chat.
Neütral Fäce: Yes I think that's about what I'm saying, Tomato.
Isa: Or when you are lying in bed and the cat comes to you and just lies down in your arms.
Ovanos: like the iPhone, so magical
Tomato: I just wanted to clarify that I understood that, thank you, Face
Mari: 18:10 - Isa: Or when you are lying in bed and the cat comes to you and just lies down in your arms.
^
Neütral Fäce: Yes, exactly!
musical: or starts padding your chest
Neütral Fäce: Or when a rabbit dances.
Tomato: I love you so much, guys. this makes me smile
Neütral Fäce: Or the sun peeking through the trees.
Neütral Fäce: What is magic to you, Tomato?
Isa: Seeing a frog jump in the grass.
Tomato: you are all talking about those special moments, that make you feel a witness or a part of something very special and of great immediate importance
Tomato: I know exactly that kind of moments, those are the moments to live for
Ovanos: so basically life and living things and their interactions is magic?
Neütral Fäce: I think so, yes.
Isa: I remember being in my friends summer house. We are walking in the fields near it just exploring. We were like what, 10, 12? I turn around and see a small deer approach us.
Tomato: I was thinking on that matter earlier today, and that is what I've come to
Neütral Fäce:
Neütral Fäce: What happened with the deer, Isa?
Isa: What do you call a baby deer?
Neütral Fäce: A fawn.
Isa: Ah yes
Isa: Well the fawn tried to smell us for like 2 minutes and decided it had enough and walked away into the woods.
Isa: We just stood there.
Ovanos: hehehehe
Neütral Fäce: Magic.
Ovanos: that's a nice memory
Isa: Yeah that felt like magic.
Ovanos: for me, magic isnt appropriate for describing such things. idk, words like beautiful, mesmerizing, astonishing, soothing
C.: I don't know what magic is.
Tomato: when I was a kid, I dreamt of being a magician, of shaping the world around me to the power of my will. when I got older, I realized, that I do shape the world, the one inside me and the one outside. when someone touches my life with granting those moments we were talking about, they make an impact, that ripples trough my inner world, rising up the images, thoughts and feelings that might have never been unearhed. that makes me to express that image through the means I am able to - like, for example, writing music.
C.: I'm not happy with the explanation I was going to give.
C.: That's so gloriously wonderful Tommy.
Ovanos: ^
Ovanos: superbly beautiful
C.: I could punch you right now.
Ovanos: me?
Tomato: when I listen to it - it brings back those moments of joy and awe, and while the image may be changing through time, the feelings still remain
quite possibly, when the other people listen to it, they get their own image
Neütral Fäce: Tomato! steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/emoticon/... Well said.
Tomato: and, if you think about it, it might shape their inner worlds as well
C.: No, Tommy.,
Ovanos: why? cuz he put it so eloquently?
Neütral Fäce: Because C. hates magic.
C.: He probably knows it's a compliment.
Neütral Fäce: steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/emoticon/...
Tomato: but - if not for the person, that rippled my world, they would not have that experience. so that person, through me, makes this effect and changes the outside world
Neütral Fäce: A few weeks ago I was having a bad day, and then a spider came running out from under a door. And I was startled, so I thought for a second that I'd step on it. But the spider stopped. And I stopped. And I went and got a glass and some paper, and when I came back the spider was still there. He hadn't moved. So I put the paper down, and I went to put the glass over the spider, but he crawled onto the paper, and then into the glass. He he chilled out until I brought him outside. And then he crawled out of the glass and turned around for a second and then left.
Tomato: I love it, NF
Neütral Fäce: One of the biggest magics I've had in the last few years was with a rabbit though.
Tomato: so, to finish my thought... I think, magic is this - changing your inner and outer world through those ineffable moments that we create or witness
Neütral Fäce: I agree, Tomato.
Neütral Fäce: That and when the guy finds my card in my own pocket.
Tomato: haha
Neütral Fäce: How did it even get there!?
Tomato: such a lovely ending to that discussion which I am totally saving
Neütral Fäce: I can tell the rabbit story if you'd like, bring it back around.
Tomato: thank you for this
Neütral Fäce:
Tomato: I would like to hear that, yes!
Neütral Fäce: Oh, ok.
Isa: Lying in a rowing boat and listening to the waves is pretty damn great.
Neütral Fäce: Rabbits are very shy, and they won't tolerate someone touching them if they don't like it. They're slow to trust. They are tiny animals of prey, afterall. A few years ago I was asked to look after someone's new rabbit. It was only a baby, very tiny. Well I didn't really want a rabbit but I also didn't want it to end up in a less-than-desirable place, so I said yes. And this tiny rabbit came to live here. It was afraid, and kept trying to escape, but I put a towel and a cardboard box on the floor with some food and stuff and then left it alone. I was still in the room at all times, but I didn't approach. I'm here alone most of the time so I talked to the rabbit all day. Asked her what she was up to and told her what I was doing. But she was still afraid. And she still tried to escape. One time she even got stuck on the bars of gate. lol. I had to pry her off and gently put her back on the floor.
Andre: tl;dr this chat
Neütral Fäce: One day she came to me and tugged my pants and gave them a lick, then took off. Haha. But the day after, she followed me to the other room. And the day after she came and lay down next to me.
Neütral Fäce: And then she sat on my lap.
C.: That's so neat.
Tomato: amazing!
Neütral Fäce: And five years later that rabbit with no home still won't leave me alone.
Tomato: ain't it grand
Neütral Fäce: Yep.
Tomato: I won't believe that you were unchanged by that experience
Tomato: and you've definitely changed that little rabbit's world
Tomato: that, my friend, is magic
Neütral Fäce: Well sometimes you get what you need rather than what you think you wanted.